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a letter from a citizen to our troops
Letter to the Editor
By MWC.News Network
Sunday, 23 October 2005
Following is a letter from a reader in response to Christy Cole's column "To A Soldier, From A Citizen"
From: Phil Cole
re: 'a letter from a citizen to our troops'
Just about 50 years ago, the moron who wrote that letter would have been hunted down, tried and hanged, like Tokyo Rose. This piece of garbage letter is among the most treasonous and seditious pieces of crap it has ever been my displeasure to read and you people should hang your heads in shame. Let me tell you, you cannot profess support for our people in Iraq while publishing garbage like this, and you cannot support our people without supporting their mission, it is incompatible. I don't expect left wing morons like you to understand, because that is beyond you. In an earlier time, it was assholes like you who called me a babykiller. You were a bunch of liars then, and you have not changed. If it were up to me, each and every one of you would be in jail awaiting Trial for Treason, because make no mistake, that letter was Treasonous as was your publishing it.
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Editors Response;
"Just about 50 years ago, the moron who wrote that letter would have been hunted down, tried and hanged, like Tokyo Rose."
It is ironic that the reader gives this as an example. Because what really happened was:
"Not long before the Japanese surrender, the U.S. Office of War Information had concluded, "There is no Tokyo Rose; the name is strictly a GI invention . . . . Government monitors listening in twenty-four hours a day have never heard the words Tokyo Rose over a Japanese-controlled Far Eastern radio."
Six months after the arrest of Iva Toguri d'Aquino, ostensibly for her role as 'Tokyo Rose', the Eighth Army's legal section reported, "There is no evidence that [Toguri] ever broadcast greetings to units by names or location, or predicted military movements or attacks indicating access to secret military
information and plans, etc., as the Tokyo Rose of rumor and legend is reported to have done."
This should have won her freedom. However, the military feared "the reaction in the press and in Californian political circles if she was released, after the entire hullabaloo in the media about the 'capture' of Tokyo Rose," recalls Russell Warren Howe in The Hunt for 'Tokyo Rose'. Not until the U.S. Attorney General's office reiterated "the identification of Toguri as 'Tokyo Rose' is erroneous" was she finally discharged from military custody, on October 25, 1946."
I believe your reference more accurately fits the McCarthy era [June of 1950,] which was one of the darkest times in American democracy. However, that is in the past now and all you can do is feel
nostalgic about that.
"Let me tell you, you cannot profess support for our people in Iraq while publishing garbage like this, and you cannot support our people without supporting their mission, it is incompatible."
Let's be clear that we are not responding to the part which is directed to the author of the article, (she has the right to respond herself should she choose to,) but only those parts that were directed at MWC.
We have not and will not support unlawful invasion by our people, your people or as it is, the occupation forces. Nevertheless, one may support an entity yet not support certain actions by it. At MWC we view the Iraq invasion as an unprovoked, unjust war, which was sold to the American
public by the lies and deceptions of its leaders.
".. I don't expect left wing morons like you to understand, because that is beyond you. In an earlier time, it was assholes like you who called me a babykiller. You were a bunch of liars then,"
You are right about this. How another person, in another place calling you a baby killer makes
us liars is beyond us.
"If it were up to me, each and every one of you would be in jail awaiting Trial for Treason,"
We are very glad there still is the rule of law, which you too live under and where these things are not left up to you. However, it is not outside our imaginations that a day may come (and possibly soon) when this is no longer so. Then each and every one of us could be persecuted for our opinions, and each and every one of us could be subjected to prosecution and inquisition, by one or more like youself.
Finally, allow me, Shahram Vahdany, to express my opinion while I can: Christy at the end of her letter wrote,
"I cannot by law tell you to disobey an order, or command, but I can tell you what I was taught to believe. I was taught a better man will always follow the truth, no matter where that takes him. I can tell you I want you to LIVE. I want you to live to fight another day."
Respectfully, I wish to state my own opinion without fear of prosecution. I believe it is the moral duty of every soldier not to obey their orders in this bloody instance. They owe to what is left of America's great promise of freedom and democracy the onerous responsibility of not following orders unquestioningly. And, for those who have not yet been sent over there, their moral obligation is to refuse the army's demand to go to Iraq.
Shahram Vahdany, MWC Managing Editorial
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C.Cole rebuttal to mr. phils letter...
I would first off like to state for the record though we share the same name we are in no way related or even know one another.
Now as far as this goes..
"Let me tell you, you cannot profess support for our people in Iraq while publishing garbage like this, and you cannot support our people without supporting their mission, it is incompatible."
Let me make clear I do support our soldiers, but I will not ever support an administration that wantonly kills them for no damn good reason at all. You call me a traitor yet never once have I ever started a preemptive war based on lies that resulted in the deaths of thousands of people. Never once has billions of dollars gone missing on my watch. Not one time have I ever cut medical funding for wounded soldiers who were parted from thier own flesh by my illegal commands. I have never 'fixed the facts around the policy'.
You would call me a traitor yet never have I kissed a Saudi on the lips as Bush does so often. If I am a traitor, what is the man whom let bin Laden get away ?
And whatever you were called upon your return from Vietnam, guess what? I was not even born until the 11th month of 1973. If you were in fact called a baby killer I understand why you would be bitter about it, however, you are obviously unwilling to ask why so many damn Vietnamese babies WERE killed in the first place.???? WHY DID WE KILL SO MANY VIETNAMESE....????
The same reason Iraqis are now being killed. Because powerful men lie and make money off of the massive death that results from thier willful deception. They commit treason against our own people knowing people like you can be fooled into attacking anyone who dares speak against them even as death comes for our own sons and daughters. Our children, NOT theirs, not they who set it all up. No, their kids will not pay the price of their sins. Their fathers TREASON.
Incompatable would actually be your obvious belief that more death will justify the death already brought about by lies. And according to your logic, warning our soldiers of treason against them is now treason in your backward way. You question my honesty yet never once explain the lies that led to our soldiers dying in droves. You would rather believe I am a traitor than question the consequence of the treason I warn of ?
If hanging me would stop one more mother from frantically clawing the earth to retrive a child bombed into oblivion by bombs I helped pay for, then hangn me. If my demise would stop immoral corrupt men from lying our soldiers into impaling themselves upon Iraq, then by all that is holy and right let my one death serve that higher purpose. But don't you DARE try telling me on the way to the gallows that the death of ANY Iraqi was about MY freedom. Because then I would have to die fighting.
To stop this treason, it is WORTH dying for. I can not say the same about stolen Iraqi oil profits.
C.Cole
PS. If you have a problem with 'liberals'.... Please tell it to Jesus when you meet Him
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Letter to the Editor
By MWC.News Network
Sunday, 23 October 2005
Following is a letter from a reader in response to Christy Cole's column "To A Soldier, From A Citizen"
From: Phil Cole
re: 'a letter from a citizen to our troops'
Just about 50 years ago, the moron who wrote that letter would have been hunted down, tried and hanged, like Tokyo Rose. This piece of garbage letter is among the most treasonous and seditious pieces of crap it has ever been my displeasure to read and you people should hang your heads in shame. Let me tell you, you cannot profess support for our people in Iraq while publishing garbage like this, and you cannot support our people without supporting their mission, it is incompatible. I don't expect left wing morons like you to understand, because that is beyond you. In an earlier time, it was assholes like you who called me a babykiller. You were a bunch of liars then, and you have not changed. If it were up to me, each and every one of you would be in jail awaiting Trial for Treason, because make no mistake, that letter was Treasonous as was your publishing it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Editors Response;
"Just about 50 years ago, the moron who wrote that letter would have been hunted down, tried and hanged, like Tokyo Rose."
It is ironic that the reader gives this as an example. Because what really happened was:
"Not long before the Japanese surrender, the U.S. Office of War Information had concluded, "There is no Tokyo Rose; the name is strictly a GI invention . . . . Government monitors listening in twenty-four hours a day have never heard the words Tokyo Rose over a Japanese-controlled Far Eastern radio."
Six months after the arrest of Iva Toguri d'Aquino, ostensibly for her role as 'Tokyo Rose', the Eighth Army's legal section reported, "There is no evidence that [Toguri] ever broadcast greetings to units by names or location, or predicted military movements or attacks indicating access to secret military
information and plans, etc., as the Tokyo Rose of rumor and legend is reported to have done."
This should have won her freedom. However, the military feared "the reaction in the press and in Californian political circles if she was released, after the entire hullabaloo in the media about the 'capture' of Tokyo Rose," recalls Russell Warren Howe in The Hunt for 'Tokyo Rose'. Not until the U.S. Attorney General's office reiterated "the identification of Toguri as 'Tokyo Rose' is erroneous" was she finally discharged from military custody, on October 25, 1946."
I believe your reference more accurately fits the McCarthy era [June of 1950,] which was one of the darkest times in American democracy. However, that is in the past now and all you can do is feel
nostalgic about that.
"Let me tell you, you cannot profess support for our people in Iraq while publishing garbage like this, and you cannot support our people without supporting their mission, it is incompatible."
Let's be clear that we are not responding to the part which is directed to the author of the article, (she has the right to respond herself should she choose to,) but only those parts that were directed at MWC.
We have not and will not support unlawful invasion by our people, your people or as it is, the occupation forces. Nevertheless, one may support an entity yet not support certain actions by it. At MWC we view the Iraq invasion as an unprovoked, unjust war, which was sold to the American
public by the lies and deceptions of its leaders.
".. I don't expect left wing morons like you to understand, because that is beyond you. In an earlier time, it was assholes like you who called me a babykiller. You were a bunch of liars then,"
You are right about this. How another person, in another place calling you a baby killer makes
us liars is beyond us.
"If it were up to me, each and every one of you would be in jail awaiting Trial for Treason,"
We are very glad there still is the rule of law, which you too live under and where these things are not left up to you. However, it is not outside our imaginations that a day may come (and possibly soon) when this is no longer so. Then each and every one of us could be persecuted for our opinions, and each and every one of us could be subjected to prosecution and inquisition, by one or more like youself.
Finally, allow me, Shahram Vahdany, to express my opinion while I can: Christy at the end of her letter wrote,
"I cannot by law tell you to disobey an order, or command, but I can tell you what I was taught to believe. I was taught a better man will always follow the truth, no matter where that takes him. I can tell you I want you to LIVE. I want you to live to fight another day."
Respectfully, I wish to state my own opinion without fear of prosecution. I believe it is the moral duty of every soldier not to obey their orders in this bloody instance. They owe to what is left of America's great promise of freedom and democracy the onerous responsibility of not following orders unquestioningly. And, for those who have not yet been sent over there, their moral obligation is to refuse the army's demand to go to Iraq.
Shahram Vahdany, MWC Managing Editorial
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C.Cole rebuttal to mr. phils letter...
I would first off like to state for the record though we share the same name we are in no way related or even know one another.
Now as far as this goes..
"Let me tell you, you cannot profess support for our people in Iraq while publishing garbage like this, and you cannot support our people without supporting their mission, it is incompatible."
Let me make clear I do support our soldiers, but I will not ever support an administration that wantonly kills them for no damn good reason at all. You call me a traitor yet never once have I ever started a preemptive war based on lies that resulted in the deaths of thousands of people. Never once has billions of dollars gone missing on my watch. Not one time have I ever cut medical funding for wounded soldiers who were parted from thier own flesh by my illegal commands. I have never 'fixed the facts around the policy'.
You would call me a traitor yet never have I kissed a Saudi on the lips as Bush does so often. If I am a traitor, what is the man whom let bin Laden get away ?
And whatever you were called upon your return from Vietnam, guess what? I was not even born until the 11th month of 1973. If you were in fact called a baby killer I understand why you would be bitter about it, however, you are obviously unwilling to ask why so many damn Vietnamese babies WERE killed in the first place.???? WHY DID WE KILL SO MANY VIETNAMESE....????
The same reason Iraqis are now being killed. Because powerful men lie and make money off of the massive death that results from thier willful deception. They commit treason against our own people knowing people like you can be fooled into attacking anyone who dares speak against them even as death comes for our own sons and daughters. Our children, NOT theirs, not they who set it all up. No, their kids will not pay the price of their sins. Their fathers TREASON.
Incompatable would actually be your obvious belief that more death will justify the death already brought about by lies. And according to your logic, warning our soldiers of treason against them is now treason in your backward way. You question my honesty yet never once explain the lies that led to our soldiers dying in droves. You would rather believe I am a traitor than question the consequence of the treason I warn of ?
If hanging me would stop one more mother from frantically clawing the earth to retrive a child bombed into oblivion by bombs I helped pay for, then hangn me. If my demise would stop immoral corrupt men from lying our soldiers into impaling themselves upon Iraq, then by all that is holy and right let my one death serve that higher purpose. But don't you DARE try telling me on the way to the gallows that the death of ANY Iraqi was about MY freedom. Because then I would have to die fighting.
To stop this treason, it is WORTH dying for. I can not say the same about stolen Iraqi oil profits.
C.Cole
PS. If you have a problem with 'liberals'.... Please tell it to Jesus when you meet Him
Link Here
posted by Kangaroo Brisbane Australia at 5:07 PM
2 Comments:
Love ya Katherine.
Thank you. That means alot to me.
BTW My letter is going to be read by my friend Karen at the WCW (World Cant Wait) Rally in front of the WHITE HOUSE!!!!
Hehe
As I told you this morning Christy, your writing deserves to be read, and the White House is the perfect place for it to be read to people fighting the same fight all over America, the fight for justice.
So proud of you girlfriend, as Katherine says your words have power beyond the lies and the guns.the power to make the world look at the evil that is being done to Your country and to our brave soldiers, American and coalition.
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